A company discussed on 20VC with Harry Stebbings.

Inference Will Be $10TRN Market: What No One Sees | Software Investors are F***ed | Naveen Rao
Oct 24, 2026 · 1:13:26
Naveen Rao, founder and CEO of Unconventional AI, argues that energy will be AI's biggest bottleneck and that the inference market will reach $10 trillion within 10 years. He explains that physical efficiency gains have stalled, so value comes from co-designing model, architecture, and hardware—why chips will not commoditize and Nvidia keeps the margin. He tells Harry Stebbings that pure software investors are 'kind of fucked' as SaaS fragments, with AI-plus-human outcome delivery replacing it, and that the bottleneck has shifted from creation to verification. Rao predicts robotics will be 100x bigger than agentic coding, open models will carry 80% of token traffic, and traditional VC metrics like market validation no longer fit deep tech.

Who Wins in the Next Decade of VC | Margin and Price Matter Less in a World of AI | Sameer Dholakia
Oct 19, 2026 · 1:19:51
20VC's Harry Stebbings hosts Bessemer partner Sameer Dholakia, who argues AI is a bigger supercycle than cloud and the internet, with intelligence a bigger market than oil. He recounts Bessemer's Anthropic Series D at $15B pre-money—the firm's lowest-voted deal ever—plus bull cases for Legora at $1.8B and Fireworks at $250B, holding that open and closed models both win. He contends capital is a moat, T2D3 growth is no longer enough, and defends 10-15x NTM entry multiples. He explains Bessemer's new $5.75B funds ($1.75B seed, $4B growth), why 5x returns remain possible, and why venture is splitting into mega-platforms or specialists. He predicts companies will stay private longer with an IPO unlock next year and in 2028, and credits SendGrid's 'teammates beat colleagues' culture.

Horizontal vs Vertical Agents: Who Wins? | Model Routing: Commodity or Increasing in Value?
Oct 17, 2026 · 1:03:06
Harry Stebbings hosts Harrison Chase, CEO of LangChain, who argues agents are hard to build because models are non-deterministic, and value accrues to whoever controls context, harness and evals. Chase explains why model routing belongs in the harness for vertical agents but in gateways for horizontal tasks, why agent memory is unsolved after LangChain killed its memory product, and why vertical agents should start at the harness before post-training. He says inference and coding agent demand is far bigger than expected, that LangChain spends ~30% of engineering salary on coding tools — a figure he ties to Anthropic's valuation — and that open models mostly serve simple tasks, not core loops. He closes with his bull case for a $9BN Jev round and how Benchmark and Sequoia help founders.

Meta's Muse Hits #1 | Menlo Sounds the AI Bubble Alarm | Keith Rabois vs Airwallex: Who is Right?
Sep 24, 2026 · 1:20:44
Harry Stebbings, Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll argue Meta's Muse hitting #1 is the first true ChatGPT competitor and a Trojan horse that added $100 billion to Meta's market cap, and that Anthropic's delayed $2 trillion IPO is a bet on a cleaner Q4 story, not a cracking market. They break down OpenAI's $278 billion burn and $700 billion of CapEx, argue Jev's $40 million seed shows 20% of a $100 billion LLM spend will leak to cheaper classifiers, and predict agentic commerce will maim Amazon while benefiting Shopify. They debate disappearing traditional seed rounds, FOMO-driven checks and what LPs should back today. They approve Factory at $5 billion — coding is the motherlode — pass on Crusoe at $30.9 billion, and side against Keith Rabois in his Airwallex fight, urging founders to build an army of advocates.

Jensen Huang Declares AGI Has Arrived | Tesla Launches Cybercabs | Index Pulls Out of Town
Sep 10, 2026 · 1:22:31
Rory O'Driscoll of Scale and Jason Lemkin tell Harry Stebbings that Jensen Huang's AGI declaration is a 'bullshit term' since only coding matters, while the AI assistant race between Instinct, Grok Bot and Meta hinges on distribution. They debate whether legal AI firms Harvey and Legora can match coding AI — Rory pegs legal's AI take at 10–15% versus 30–50% in coding — and warn goal-seeking agents, as in OpenAI's undisclosed DSC Wiki incident, pose a cybersecurity crisis. They assess Tesla's Cybercab as a Waymo rival, Index exiting Town's round after Instinct objected, and Anthropic abandoning its $6 billion Descartes deal. They close on Robinhood underwriting Aura's IPO, Wonderful's $5 billion raise with $170 million in secondary, and Thinking Machines' $40 billion valuation.

Inside Sequoia's Investment Committee | How the SpaceX & Citadel Deals Went Down | Julien Bek
Aug 24, 2026 · 1:28:28
Julien Bek, a Partner at Sequoia Capital, says Sequoia wins by hunting with conviction, not waiting for inbound calls, and shares founder-reading lessons from Don Valentine, Doug Leone, Pat Grady, Alfred Lin, and Shaun Maguire. He highlights Leone's 'worst reference' question, Lin's warning not to mistake an outlier operator for an outlier founder, and Maguire's ELO method for calibrating references. Bek also explains how asking 'why' five times exposed a fraudulent founder, how his read changes by country (French/German references get 1-2 extra points; Americans get subtracted), and why he missed Anton Osaka of Lovable. On AI, he argues agents become the new customer, AEO parallels SEO, and the next trillion-dollar company will be software masquerading as services. He tells how his mother invested in Revolut at a ~$200M valuation, now worth over $100B.
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